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  Amazing Awake Experience, Former druggie looks up JWs in the phone book and starts studying

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  no looking up jws on the internet first?

  and uses a phone book, who even owns a phone book anymore?.

  here is the an "experience" from pg 7 of the august 2011 awake.. my teenage years were a blur of alcohol,.

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  jean-luc picard

  I think that lots of other religions quote similar experiences.

  Its human. And as Mao said:

  religion is the opium of the people.

  So shes just given up one drug for another.
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  Waking Up From a 34 Year Slumber.

  by alg1052 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  july 11, 2011 will be 34 years since i was baptised as one of jw's.

  the sleeping pill i took was in the form of them providing the information that made the bible come alive with the truth and insisting that they go by the bible not adding or taking away from it.

  i had negative experiences from local brothers from time to time, however i excused them as part of being imperfect.

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  jean-luc picard

  Welcome to the forum alg.

  Whilst searching for your way, you might like to look at this link:

  http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/diary.html

  in the light of your present situation.

  and

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/preach.php

  on just who heeds the "preach the good news" message of Matt 24:14

  You will need to get used to the fact that the borg tries VERY HARD, to prevent its

  followers reading things NOT WRITTEN BY THEM.

  But it is the only way that you will get answers to your questions.

  Good luck on your search.
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  Did you ever shun someone close? How did you feel?

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how does a jw feel when he "has" to shun someone he likes/loves?.

  during the time i was in, i shunned people.

  but as i didn't like them, it was no problem.. but now, i'm trying to understand how my family might really feel.. (i presume here, of course, that they do "like/love me".).

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  jean-luc picard

  Thank you all for your responses.

  One thing is becoming clear: disfellowshipped ones are MORE LOVING, MORE FORGIVING and MORE UNDERSTANDING than those so called christians in the congregation.

  Mr FALCON: Just a touch of irony:

  Then again, if they were a molester or rapist, they probably aren't DF'd and are currently appointed and/or annointed.

  LOL.

  I have to go to work now. Will catch up tomorrow.

  God bless you all.
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  Did you ever shun someone close? How did you feel?

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how does a jw feel when he "has" to shun someone he likes/loves?.

  during the time i was in, i shunned people.

  but as i didn't like them, it was no problem.. but now, i'm trying to understand how my family might really feel.. (i presume here, of course, that they do "like/love me".).

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  Thanks for your experience Morbidzbaby.

  What a shame that your relation with your brother has been spoiled.

  Broken promises: I guess that my family might feel the same way, though I live a

  long way away so it is probably easier (out of sight...etc )

  Eruption and Loubelle: well done for having character

  Firstlastname: its scarey how we so easily fall in line.
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  Did you ever shun someone close? How did you feel?

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how does a jw feel when he "has" to shun someone he likes/loves?.

  during the time i was in, i shunned people.

  but as i didn't like them, it was no problem.. but now, i'm trying to understand how my family might really feel.. (i presume here, of course, that they do "like/love me".).

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  jean-luc picard

  How does a JW feel when he "HAS" to shun someone he likes/loves?

  During the time I was in, I shunned people. But as I didn't like them, it was no problem.

  But now, I'm trying to understand how my family might REALLY feel.

  (I presume here, of course, that they DO "like/love me".)
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  "we need a support system to make it in thislife"

  by finallyfree! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thats what my pops told me after i was refuting false wt doctrine.

  "that even if im right about 1914 etc, that we need a support structure to get thru life..." hes older in years and their lives are surrounded by good jws.

  thats all they are is a social club for non-thinkers.

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  finally free:

  if ever i meet a nice woman who i one day end up building a life together with,

  i will lose my family

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  Not necessarily. If you are considered "free" to remarry, then that will change nothing.

  I wasnt, and was DF in my absence. But then I have MY "nice woman" with me, so I really don't care.
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  I walked out of an Elder's Meeting

  by AlmightyDog in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well here goes... i apologize in advance if this turns into a long and disjointed rant, but i just have to begin typing in order to keep from exploding.

  i realize that what im about to say could seriously jeopardize my anonymity, but i think ive reached the point that i just dont care.

  i want this to be over.. let me explain what caused me to rip up a letter and get up and walk out in the middle of an elders meeting two weekends ago.. our boe has been embroiled in a nasty fight for the past 2 years over a certain brothers business dealings.

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  Punkofnice:

  sounds like you are coming through OK.

  (Sorry this is about me but I'm just making a point).

  I dont think you need to apologise here. You are among friends.

  Glad to hear Mrs P is OK with you. Good luck.

  jlp
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  "we need a support system to make it in thislife"

  by finallyfree! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thats what my pops told me after i was refuting false wt doctrine.

  "that even if im right about 1914 etc, that we need a support structure to get thru life..." hes older in years and their lives are surrounded by good jws.

  thats all they are is a social club for non-thinkers.

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  jean-luc picard

  It sounds like your dad doesnt REALLY believe the WT.

  I can understand that, after a lifetime in the cult, and especially if its "good" for them,

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  their lives are surrounded by good jws

  then why rock the boat?
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  Avatar

  by faundy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  been a while since i was posting on here; how come most of you have the hand-drawn avatar things?

  do you make your own?

  where are they from?.

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  jean-luc picard

  Hi Faundy.

  When you get an account on the forum, you are automatically given a "hand drawn" avatar, as you say.

  You do not have a choice as to what it is.

  It isnt too complicated to have your own choice afterwards, though some dont want to be bothered or are maybe not sure how to.

  1. you open an account at gravatar.com

  2. you give them an e-mail address and

  3. you choise and upload the photo you wish to use as your avatar.

  4. Every site where you have an account using the e-mail address given to gravatar.com will show the avatar that you have chosen.

  I guess that in 2006 when you joined, it wasn't the same?
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  I walked out of an Elder's Meeting

  by AlmightyDog in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well here goes... i apologize in advance if this turns into a long and disjointed rant, but i just have to begin typing in order to keep from exploding.

  i realize that what im about to say could seriously jeopardize my anonymity, but i think ive reached the point that i just dont care.

  i want this to be over.. let me explain what caused me to rip up a letter and get up and walk out in the middle of an elders meeting two weekends ago.. our boe has been embroiled in a nasty fight for the past 2 years over a certain brothers business dealings.

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  jean-luc picard

  Hello almightydog.

  I have just read up your earlier thread. You have indeed spoken to your family about your feelings, so they could turn you in and try and get you DFd. But I wonder if they will really do that?

  Why not try telling the CO etc, that you are shocked by what you have seen in the elders meetings ( and believe me, your congregation is by no means an exception),

  and that you need time to think, and that you will do that in your own time.

  Stick to that story, and dont repeat any of your feelings about the org. If you dont repeat anything, then its only your family who are witnesses, and I wonder if they would really testify against you.( do they want you back or do they want you out?).

  Then fade, slowly but surely. Sure, they will try and reactivate you. You know how that works.

  I dont think they can DF you for responding to various questions with:

  "I'm so disillusioned by what i've seen " or

  "Certain actions have really shocked me"

  as long as you refuse to give more details than that.

  Its a way of blaming them. I'm fading because of what YOU'VE done.

  Its a long road, but might help keep close to you're family.

  Good luck A.D.